This week, I am joined by Ron Schneidermann, CEO of AllTrails, to discuss how AllTrails grew its community to 30M+ registered users across 200 countries, how COVID-19 supercharged the "outdoors trend" and accelerated the app's growth, how the responsible use of technology can help foster human-nature relationships—and what its limitations are, how AllTrails hand-curates each of its 300,000+ trails, Ron and Nadina's favorite trails, and why everyone needs the outdoors, now more than ever.